DAVID FOLK THOMAS: Give an example of that, just a general example, right off the bat. We'll get more into detail later.
DR. BENJAMIN KLIGLER: One of my best examples is with children. I see children in my practice. When children have warts on a knee, on a hand, anywhere on their body -- which is a common childhood problem -- you can actually eliminate warts by using the power of the imagination. It's a little bit complicated telling you how that works exactly, but basically you use a visual image to help the body muster its defenses against the virus that's causing the wart, and it works like a charm.
DAVID FOLK THOMAS: I'm going to play the skeptic here and say, "Now, how on earth is that possible?" Let's take Dr. Kligler's wart example. Can you get into a little bit of how that might be possible?
AURORA OCAMPO: When we do visualization, what happens is, first, before we do that we put the patient, the client, into a very relaxed state and then do the visualization. When somebody's so relaxed, what happens is a lot of chemicals, hormones, are produced in our body. I'm sure you're familiar with endorphins. You have serotonin. When that happens, the body's own innate capacity to heal is activated.
DAVID FOLK THOMAS: So these bad chemicals, say, could be causing the wart or preventing the wart from --
